Anastasiia Binns, Head of RevOps at N.Rich, explains why account-based marketing programmes stall. She outlines the alignment, measurement and operating discipline needed to sustain them.
Why we asked Anastasiia
ABM changes how sales and marketing collaborate, measure performance and respond to target accounts. Without shared definitions, realistic expectations, careful change management and regular reviews, programmes can remain ABM in name only.
The company
At the time of recording, Anastasiia was Head of RevOps at N.Rich. Her team was implementing an internal ABM programme and examining the related organisational, process and technology challenges.
What you’ll learn
The conversation provides a framework for introducing ABM, choosing stage-appropriate indicators and involving sales from the outset. It also covers sensible review cycles and adaptable technology.
ABM is a demand-generation approach in which sales and marketing jointly target ideal customer profile accounts. Unlike conventional lead generation, marketing does not produce mixed-quality leads and hand them to sales. Both functions address the same prospects with consistent messages and share responsibility for meetings and revenue.
This shift extends beyond campaigns or CRM configuration. Teams often need to change how they classify inbound and outbound work or structure sales commissions. Anastasiia views ABM as a foundational operating change, not another marketing activity.
People often find workplace change painful, yet organisations announce major shifts through a Slack message, email or all-hands meeting. Anastasiia uses the Kübler-Ross change curve to describe movement from shock, denial and anger toward experimentation, decision and integration. Change management helps people navigate difficult stages faster without leaving colleagues behind.
Leaders should identify where people become stuck and address their needs before implementation. Early consultation and shared problem-solving can make the transition safer. Involving sales, SDR, marketing and adjacent stakeholders early reduces later resistance, while rushed implementation often reflects poor planning.
ABM is a strategy that must keep adapting, not a project that is ever finished.
Anastasiia Binns
Anastasiia has seen ABM describe a person measured on lead volume or dream accounts handed to SDRs without marketing support. She has also seen outdated programmes continue after their assumptions became questionable. Another damaging expectation is that buying a platform or launching a programme will immediately produce a flood of leads.
She describes returns as a growing trickle, not a waterfall. Organisations should define what ABM must accomplish, then set goals, strategy and milestones. ABX can signal shared responsibility when ABM sounds marketing-led, provided the strategy remains intact.
Revenue remains the organisation’s North Star, but it is a poor day-one measure for ABM. Long sales cycles separate campaign launches from closed revenue. In cases Anastasiia has seen, the first ABM conversion took up to nine months. Timing depended on organisational maturity and prior activity. Ending a programme after one quarter can halt a viable effort too early.
Teams should define their buyer journey and assign indicators to each stage, from cold and in-market to engaged and hot. Measures include advertisement engagement, target-account penetration, returning visits, high-intent pages and outbound conversion. Stalled progression then shows where messaging or conversion needs correction.
The inbound-versus-outbound divide becomes too rigid when sales and marketing influence the same account. A prospect can submit a form after seeing advertisements and receiving sales outreach. Another can answer sales after marketing retargets website visits. Anastasiia suggests keeping the conversion source while adding influence. An inbound lead can be sales-influenced, while an outbound lead can be marketing-influenced.
This model recognises both contributions without losing operational detail. Reporting can compare marketing-influenced pipeline against pipeline with no marketing touch. Blending departmental costs for jointly influenced accounts remains harder. The approach replaces competition for credit with a clearer account of collaboration.
ABM cannot be configured once and ignored because ideal customer profiles, markets, teams and skills change. Economic shifts can alter target-account behaviour, requiring new messaging and targeting. Turnover or weak performance in sales or marketing can also affect results more directly than under a linear hand-off model.
Anastasiia recommends monthly reviews of campaigns and leading indicators, followed by focused adjustments. Quarterly reviews should cover the ICP, sales velocity, campaign return and broader processes. This timing lets operational changes settle. Changing core definitions monthly would cause constant rebuilding and prevent meaningful results from emerging.
When leaders present ABM as a marketing initiative without consulting sales, salespeople are likely to prioritise their own lead generation. Sales can create immediate activity through closer prospect contact, making the programme look unnecessary. Leaders should explain ABM in practical sales terms. It replaces searching an undifferentiated directory with entering a room of accounts showing awareness and readiness.
Sales must see how marketing helps accounts progress, without turning attribution into a contest. Anastasiia recommends aligning SDR actions and KPIs with each stage. Teams should report pre-opportunity influence, recognise individual contributions and share transparent reporting beyond board presentations.
N.Rich worked with ABM campaigns and intent data but lacked an internal ABM programme when Anastasiia joined. Using the company’s tools became a substantial project. The team spent almost a month debating definitions. An established ICP became contentious, and account tiers required reconsideration. Her lesson is to allow enough time for agreement before creating content and campaigns.
N.Rich involved marketing, SDR, sales and RevOps leaders from the start. Sales shaped definitions, tiers, processes and approaches. Executives also needed to understand the work and timeline. Integrated systems, automation, prioritisation and a shared data source must support changes in workflows, segments and targeting.
Key takeaways
— Treat ABM as joint demand generation, with sales and marketing sharing responsibility for target-account progression and revenue.
— Manage ABM as organisational change through early consultation, resistance planning and shared decision-making.
— Define the buyer journey, then use stage-specific indicators until pipeline and revenue become meaningful.
— Report conversion source and cross-team influence instead of relying on binary inbound-versus-outbound attribution.
— Review campaigns monthly, but reassess the ICP, returns and major processes quarterly.
— Include sales, marketing, SDR, RevOps and executives from the outset, supported by adaptable, integrated technology.
About the guest
Head of RevOps · N.Rich
At the time of recording, Anastasiia Binns was Head of RevOps at N.Rich. Her background in social anthropology informed her work on human behaviour, organisational change and ABM operations.
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